I honestly had a conversation with a person who claimed that a natural disaster was ultimately a good thing, because it forced people to rebuild the rundown buildings, but just shrugged off the effects to those below the poverty line. The boost to businesses should out weight the effects of the lower income folks.
Also argued that unemployment benefits were ultimately bad because it didn’t help teach people a lesson in saving for when they are poor. That they need incentive to learn and that a safety net is ultimately a bad thing.
Claiming that the US babies its citizens and making a correlation between international education ranking. “Hey what is the US in education like 20th? but look at those countries who are higher. Look at India, China, Taiwan. And they don’t baby their citizens.” Yeah, those are all places famous for sweatshops. And they don’t really have a stellar record in human rights, I’ll looking at you China.
He literally argued against having a safety net, but totally wouldn’t count countries like France, the UK, Germany, Sweden, Holland, the list goes on and on, of countries that actually do a better job of taking care of their citizens and “baby” their citizens a lot more than the US does, and they rank higher in education than US does as well. How convenient he forgot about all of those countries.
I don’t know. I don’t think this guy realizes it, but he is this close to being Republican, or Libertarian.
Even on issues of women’s rights. He thinks that it could ultimately be a good thing to jail women if they attempt an abortion. In order for people to value life more… yeah… And when I mentioned that in places abortions are illegal the rates of death increases, his response was “Umm… I haven’t heard of that. Where specifically are you talking about?” And I am just flabbergasted that he just doesn’t know a huge component of what he is talking about.
If something results in the ultimate benefit for society, he argues “But is it fair?” You know what? Who cares if it is fair? Everyone is better off. What you think it is unfair that the rich guy doesn’t get the privilege money can buy? I just told you that the punishment for pure cocaine is less sever than the punishment for crack-cocaine. And the reason is rich people(who can afford pure cocaine) can buy their way out of the problem while the poor can’t since they only can afford crack-cocaine. But is that fair? Should we have the attitude, that they had the foresight to have enough money to get a lighter sentence? Is that really fair?
I just can’t make sense of blaming poor individuals for not being smart enough to save for the chances of being unemployed. “Well if they didn’t save, then why should the government help?” Are you kidding me?
But don’t get me wrong this guy isn’t a bad guy, but he just doesn’t know. He thinks he knows, but I really don’t think he does. Those who are poor and uneducated do not have sole responsibility for their situation, it is systemic and without a way to break the cycle, it is only going to create a bigger problem.
I don’t know. I don’t want have to anymore political conversations with this dude at the moment. He is a nice guy, but he doesn’t realize that everything that he has had in his life and where he is at this point was not a product of his efforts alone. That him and a poor individual didn’t start at the same place in life, and he just so happened to apply elbow grease and gumption to get farther in life, while that other person was just a lazy bump otherwise they would be successful. It doesn’t work like that.
Also he tried to tell me what I believe. He tried to make the argument that atheism is a religion, and that abstinence really should be considered a sex position.
Yeah… I am just done…